"You are tenacious. I love a woman who won't give up." William Luse 6/1/04
"Kudos also to Elena, who proved that she can take it as well as she can dish it." TSO 6/4/04
"the wonderful Elena" Nathan Nelson 8/1/04
"Elena, I quake at the sound of your name" John B-Catholic Packer Fan 8-12-04
"I like your writing and your spunk." Todd Flowerday, Catholic Sensibility 11-8-04
"Elena is is so many shades of stupid they don't make a Crayola box big enough to begin coloring her" Anonymous TWA blog 2/05
"Well, Elena cuts to the chase. Says it like it is and doesn't mince her words." Alexa of Domestic Excellence
"Elena, a woman I have little in common with but have come to be fond of" Cecily Kellog 9/15/05
"I work nonstop to help people with stupidly limited perspectives, like you, accept this reality. Even when it’s hopeless, like in your case. You live in a fantasy. I can’t help you" Also Cecily Kellog 07/2020
"Your witness is horrendous" JCecil of Liberal Catholic News
"Truth, love, charity, and, oh yeah, sensitivity, decorum, good taste and a dollop of wit. That's more like it. Keep rockin'!" PMC 12/05
"I've also been reading this blog for some time and just noticed I hadn't added you to my favorite blogs. Done!" The Mighty Barrister 5/21/04
"Now go haul your huge, sagging, obese, smelly old body out of the chair and take care of those kids of yours before I call CPS and have them do an inspection and see what you're really up to when you're supposed to be homeschooling them." NMH 2006
"That you are one narcissistic, bizaare individual." Jill Filipovic on Feministe Blog September 2006
"I could certainly continue to go back and forth (and believe me, I would love to!!!!!), but that would be answering a fool according to his folly." Amy-anti-Catholic blogger at Blessed Motherhood 7/07/07!
"Where's Elena? We need Elena." Kathryn the Daring Young Mom 2/17/06
"I have no problem with Elena. I find her answers to be quite lucid, witty, and insightful." David B commenting on In Today's News 10/29/05
"She's not cranky, she just senses happiness and snuffs it out." Gabe, age 9, after being scolded for not being ready for swim practice. 12/0
"you are one narcissistic, bizaare, individual." Jill Filipovic 9/11/2006
"Elena of My Domestic Church get’s my nomination for living a life of loveliness that I could only ever dream of. She’s an awesome wife and mother, a deeply committed Catholic, a proponent of pro-life issues, a hands on make-and-bake-and-cut-and-stick-musical-momma, a prayerful, compassionate, thoughtful and passionate woman who endeavours to live a christocentric life in her own euphonious way. Yes, I am proud to know her as a blog buddy and sharing in her trials and her triumphs via reading her blog over the last few years has impacted me more than she could know… and always for the better." Deb from Ukok's Place 08/2007
"I have a feeling elena never moves on from anything. other than the couch to the fridge." 08/2007 commenter on the now defunct Rock Star Mommy Blog.
"I think you're a shrew." Anne Basso 7/08
"Even with our differences, I will say one thing--she's smart. I may not always agree with what she says, but she doesn't spout unsupported garbage as fact." Ruthjoec aka JAnn from AOL Catholic message boards and This That and the Other Thing Blog
"I was wrong. You were right. God bless you" T from LO2W blog 3/6/2008
"As a Catholic Mother myself, I enjoy reading My Domestic Church. It's one of the many blogs that I follow and read regularly. It's refreshing to read comments from a mother that shares your views. So much of what Elena has me nodding my head in agreement. I'm sure that any Catholic-Mother will enjoy reading Elena's blog." SAMinIL on Blog Catalog 9/09
"Because of my interest in Benedictine spirituality and monasticism, began reading about the Domestic Church. This site is an excellent resource. Like any good family it is alive with energy and the Holy Spirit." John on Blog Catalog 12/08
"I watched your talk on YouTube and thought you and your husband did a wonderful job. Very natural, not stilted. Your account of your child, Raphael's, life and death were extremely touching and profound." Eileen via e-mail 02/21/2010
"Happy Easter to you Elena! Four years ago I discovered Candy. Two years ago I discovered you. Last night (Easter Vigil) I was received into full communion with the Catholic Church. It was a beautiful night and one I will remember forever. Thanks to you and Kelly for clearing up any confusion there may be about what the Church believes, teaches, and proclaims. Have a blessed Easter season!" From a VTC reader. 05/2010
"Elena, You completely 'foul up' the catechism. I repeat you are a nice lady, but your lack of education and knowledge, as your distorted answers show," Jack from Liberal Catholic Sports Music 1/9/2009
"you repeatedly impress me. I know we have very different political views that show up in our comments to each other at times, but I have never once felt anything but generosity from you toward who I am." JB via e-mail 7/23/2010
"The post I really love, though is 28 Things I Learned About Marriage in 28 Years at My Domestic Church. In fact, it's so good I plan to show it on the first day of class for my Family and Society course this." Sister Edith at Monastic Musings
Elena was animated, enthusiastic, faith shined through! She was very real. For us, she was relatable and so honest and open. She motivated us the most and we are thankful that she shared so much of her personal life to show example. some PreCana evals from 2014
"you never cease to amaze me, and everyone else! You are unbelievably unforgettably wow! I'm so blessed to be your cousin and friend. Dan - My domestic cousin 5/2014
"Elena: A flute could never sound or feel so etherial as when you play." Marissa
"Your comments are continually provoking, idiotic and condescending" my nephew 11/2018
" As a mom of littles, I really appreciate moms like you tackling these tough issues and sharing your wisdom!" Laura commenting on Catholicmom 06/2019
"Thanks so much for a thoughtful article faithful to the teachings of our faith, while being compassionate towards gay people."Tim commenting on Catholicmom dot com 06/2019
"Grandma, snuggle me!" - My domestic granddaughter 2017
"When Elena turns the other cheek, it's so she can whip around the other side with full force!" Mr. Pete My Domestic Husband!
I write and maintain a spiritual blog which I have titled “AccordingtotheBook” and I’d like to invite you to follow it.
At present I'm trying to vfollow you but can't get the wedgit to work. Probably on my end…I'll keep trying.
that pesky "spirit of Vatican II" eschewed the idea that a direct, proper and, oh, I don't know – ACCURATE, translation was necessary.
You know what, they have to sell this change somehow. So the tact they're taking is that the former translation wasn't accurate enough that the previous translation eased the laity into the vernacular with a paraphrase.
But it's fairer to say, as we heard at the beginning but has somehow got lost in recent months, that translation philosophy has changed in 40 years. Now everyone doing translation work in any field strives for more literal.
We're more literal as a society. Everything is taken at face value. Innuendo, etc., goes over people's heads.
You can think of it as missing out if you want to but – and I'm taking a wait & see attitude towards the changes, I can't make up my mind until I've experienced them for a while – I thought the liturgy was beautiful before. I don't feel as if I've missed anything.
Me too Elena.
I completely relate to this post.
Grateful as I am to have discovered the beauty of the catholic faith, I feel profoundly sad that it took me so long.
I feel as though it was deliberately hidden from me and it hurts to think of all the ways in which my young life was poorer because of it.
I know I shoudn't be angry, but I am.
This is what I'm talking about, from my diocese's website :
In 1969, the Church issued principles for the translation of Latin into the vernacular; “Comme Le Prevoit”. The principle of “Dynamic Equivalence” [i.e., paraphrase] was the main rule in this document, meaning the translator was to express the thoughts or concepts rather than the particular words of the original text. In 2001, the Church issued “Liturgiam Authenticam” which established principles that called for “Formal Equivalence” in translation. The texts are translated in such a way that each underlying Latin word has a corresponding equivalent word.
It's just the way things were done in those days.
Moonshadow's right–I don't have a big bone in the translation fight, but I do know that the whole thing about changing paradigms of translation is correct.
There are many people who are thrilled about these changes, both pre- and post-V2 babies, and many who are not. Personally I think people on both sides are making a much bigger deal of this than necessary. I think those who are resisting the changes will find that they're really no big deal at all in the long run.
Making the generalization about the sex abuse scandal, however, is unfair. Sex abuse and coverups have been going on since long before V2. It's an institutional problem with our leadership, and it needs to be addressed–but it has nothing whatsoever to do with Vatican II.
Moonshadow's right–I don't have a big bone in the translation fight, but I do know that the whole thing about changing paradigms of translation is correct.
There are many people who are thrilled about these changes, both pre- and post-V2 babies, and many who are not. Personally I think people on both sides are making a much bigger deal of this than necessary. I think those who are resisting the changes will find that they're really no big deal at all in the long run.
Making the generalization about the sex abuse scandal, however, is unfair. Sex abuse and coverups have been going on since long before V2. It's an institutional problem with our leadership, and it needs to be addressed–but it has nothing whatsoever to do with Vatican II.
Whoa! Sorry @ the duplicate comment, my computer's being screwy tonight.
Eleana, do you remember the mass after the Latin mass and before the one we have now? The prayers (Commons) were pretty much the same as the ones we are getting.
At the risk of losing all credibility with Kathleen (because that's what I do! But thank you, Kathleen, anyway!), while I can agree the "Hare Krishnas" in Harrison's song disqualified it for many, a couple of his other songs work for me, namely "Life Itself" in which he acknowledges that God sends the rain and brings the sun, stands alone and speaks the truth and is the breath of life itself. He refers to this "One" as "Christ, Jehovah, Our Lord, Creator of All" plus some Hindu names that you don't have to sing.
In another song, "Hear Me, Lord," Harrison asks forgiveness for "those years when I ignored you." A sentiment we can relate to, I'm sure.
I don't remember the changes per se as I was very young. What I remember was the upheaval in the people I knew and respected at the time.
Anyway… I have friends that go to the Latin mass every week and although they would never ever say it, I think they have every right to feel a bit smug about this.
Of course the paradigms have changed. I lived through the paradigm change! That's what the whole rant is about.
and it was the paradigm change – the whole shift of Catholic culture and thought that lead to the massive sex scandal. Read Goodbye Good men for more information on that.
Bravo and well said!
I think those of us who are seriously into the sacred liturgy and have taken the time to study deeply what happened to it after Vatican II – not what the council Fathers had envisioned at all – go through an anger phase. But I'm so glad to see Liturgiam Authenticam being implemented for those attending the Ordinary Form that I must say, at least we're moving forward. The law of prayer is the law of belief – lex orandi, lex credendi and what we say in our prayers has a profound effect in our souls. So rejoice and be glad and make the most of it.