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I have had my kids taking piano lessons since Calvin was in third grade. By my estimation that’s almost ten years of piano lessons with three different teachers. Our current piano teacher is the best. She is dedicated, businesslike, punctual and my children have made great progress with her.

Currently she charges about $12.50 per 30 minutes, additional for the sheet music. That comes to a bit over $100 per month for the two boys. Gabe and Sam have been studying with her for about four years.

I really wanted Noah to start this year, but didn’t see a way to swing the additional money I needed to start him. I thought there had to be a way at least get him started!

Then it occurred to me that Sam has been studying for seven years. He is playing advanced pieces and has performance experience. It seems to me that he is more than qualified to get his little brother going on the basics!

So this week Sam dug out the old beginner piano books, and started teaching his little brother. He even gave him some things to practice. Since their first lesson on Monday, Noah has already practiced twice!

There are a couple of benefits to this. First of all, it gives Noah and Sam some special time together and hopefully will build some special memories. With Sam right in the house, he can correct Noah’s errors or bad habits more quickly than waiting between weekly lessons. I think it will also benefit Sam. I think you really learn a lot about your subject or your craft when you have to revisit the fundamentals by teaching someone else. I think Sam is starting to discover that.

When Noah does start formal piano lessons, he will be farther ahead of the game and hopefully will already know a little bit about proper hand position and basic music theory.

Of course it also benefits our family with the saving of weekly piano lessons. I don’t think Sam will teach Noah forever, but for right now this is a good option and better than Noah missing out on learning the piano at all.

Works for me!

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  1. I love this idea! I’m also happy to share my conversion story with your pre-cana class. Let me know if you want me to write something special for them. Hurrah for pre-cana. That’s what encouraged me to come into the Catholic church after 25 years of being a good Methodist.

  2. Did you buy a piano? My daughter would really like piano or other music lessons, but I’m skittish of the instrument cost.

  3. So smart!

    I priced piano lessons for my kindergartener ths week…$50 a lesson! I’m glad to have your price comparison.

  4. $50 a lesson! Wow. The highest quote I received when I was looking was $35 and I thought that was outrageous! Keep looking Meredith!!

    Kelly, here is my Piano post about how we got our piano. Before this one though, two people gave us pianos and then we passed them along as we needed to. It seems people are always getting rid of older pianos that just need some repair work or that aren’t perfect pieces of furniture any more. Our first gorgeous upright came from a frat house – and had all the beer stein rings to prove it! But it worked for us!

  5. Very smart idea. And it’s a wonderful experience for your son to learn how to be a teacher at a young age.

  6. I love this idea…it’s a wonderful thing in so many ways!

    I have to admit that I bought the beginner’s book but haven’t carved out a regular time slot and made this a priority with my girls (ages 5 and 8) but I should!

    But it’s true…I’ve seen my oldest teach just the little bit she knows to my youngest and it’s amazing what they can pick up this way!

    Blessings!

  7. For those who are looking at piano lessons, don’t compare prices online. Call several teachers in your own area. Here’s why:

    Since kids are in school all day, the most a piano teacher can reasonably work is from about 4:00-8:00 pm. That’s half a regular work day for everyone else.

    Some teachers do this as a hobby. Others, like myself, do it for a living. For the professional to make below minimum wage to offer a service they spent 20+ years training for is unreasonable.

    So consider what a good normal wage is in your city (cost of living is a huge factor). $25/hour is a reasonable rate for a professional business person in your area, then $50/hour for piano lessons is well within reason. If $12.50 seems like a good wage for full time SKILLED PROFESSIONAL WORK (and I don’t know any secretaries who spend 20 years in school to learn filing and faxing), then $25/hour for piano lessons is respectable.

    Everything is relative to the market where you live, so don’t assume that $35 or even $50 per lesson is out of line. Find out what other teachers in the same market are charging first.

  8. For the professional to make below minimum wage to offer a service they spent 20+ years training for is unreasonable.

    try being a church musician!

    I understand what you’re saying, but you can’t charge more than people will pay. BTW, I am a medical transcriptionist. My wages essentially have not gone up in ten years because of voice recognition technology and India. I have to keep my skills up and am expected to turn in perfect work at 1998 pay- because that what the market will bear!

  9. try being a church musician!

    I am a church musician, but not in the Catholic church (I’m also not Catholic…but I do enjoy reading your blog). We’ll not get into that…but suffice it to say that working in the Presbyterian Church pays my rent.

    but you can’t charge more than people will pay.

    Granted. But if there is a general understanding among teachers of what the market should bear, you won’t get price cutting. And people will simply have to pay what it costs.

    Ask your plumber about that 🙂

    The real point I was making is that price comparisons for things like piano lessons have to be done within the local market. I charge $40/hour (CDN) for lessons in my town. My colleagues in Ottawa charge $60, while I know people in Brandon Manitoba who charge $25/hour.

  10. But Darth, isn’t there also a sense of passing on your art to the next generation? I’m not saying you shouldn’t be paid a reasonable amount for your time, but I can tell you that I called many teachers before I found the one we have now. At $35/30 minutes/week none of my kids would take lessons. None of them. I simply would not be able to afford it.

    You’re not saying that only upper-middle class and rich kids deserve piano lessons are you?

  11. I’m a piano, flute, voice teacher, or was in the past. The reason I don’t teach anymore, is that I can’t afford to teach in this market, for which the going rate for lessons is less than the discounted rate (because I was 14 years old & paying for my own lessons, and teacher took pity) I got when I was a kid! I can’t afford to teach for what people charge here. My time & patience is worth more than that, and when I don’t feel I’m getting paid what I’m worth, I get resentful and don’t enjoy teaching because I feel taken advantage of. The going rate here is about $8 a lesson…in another area I made more than twice that for a half hour. It’s not worth it to me to take a 60% pay cut, so I just teach my own son.

    You have to consider that a teachers time is more than a 1/2 hour. It represents also the price paid into his/her education to learn the skill, prep time–time spent searching out ideal music for each child, child care costs, as well as time spent waiting for no shows who try their hardest to get out of paying, child care I pay for while I wait for those no-shows, non payers, etc.

    It’s not an easy job, and its not as simple as “sharing an art” form for fun. There is a huge emotional buy in to what your students are doing. No, it isn’t just for the elite, but if you can’t afford what it’s worth, try to work out a trade. I’ve had students over the years whose parents have traded babysitting, house cleaning, even manicures for lessons and it worked really well.

    Anyhow, I think this is a great tip, provided your son is supervised in teaching his brother by his own teacher (most teachers are very supportive of the student teacher idea) and as long as he has really good technique to pass on.

  12. What a great solution! I’m a piano teacher, and noticed your post on Blog Catalog.

    I barter with our dance teacher to save on ballet lessons. I teach her child piano and voice, and my kids dance.

    I wrote a post about how to teach basic music skills before they start formal lessons. It’s on my front page now, if you’re interested, but it sounds like you have a good system going.

    Blessings

  13. BTW, I charge $15 for a 1/2 hour lesson. Jen you have a great point about what they are really paying for. It’s the intellectual product and expertise as well as the time.

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