Elena 
and she doesn’t apprciate my taking her task on her Duggar article.
My reply:
You call this a “frisk”? You’re joking, right? You obviously didn’t really read what I wrote or what I said in the comments. None of what you have said here has changed my mind in the slightest and I’m guessing the same goes for anyone else who holds my opinion. So, nice waste of bandwidth.
The logic and correctness of my argumention does not stand or fall on whether or not you are open minded and smart enough to understand and accept it. Something is logical, correct and true regardless of whether or not the majority agrees with it. In fact, your arguing that it didn’t change anyone’s mind is an appeal to the majority which is also a quite popular logical fallacy.
You say organizational skills and handling two children are both something beyond my grasp. You also call me a “leftosphere freak” without knowing anything about my political beliefs.
Well you decried your own ability to handle more than two. And I did not say you were a freak, but rather that your article was an example of a “freak out.” Perhaps you need to read more carefully yourself dear.
Yet, it’s ok for you to try to slam me for stating my opinion on a controversial family?
I didn’t try to slam you. I actually did slam you. If it is okay for your to post an opinion in public you should be prepared for opposing views.
Maybe you could also benefit from getting some facts before you contradict yourself.
I got the facts RSM – I read your blog.
I did say that it is their right to have as many children as they so choose. The children are obviously doing fine, so it’s not for anyone to delegate how many more times they can pro-create. I stated my opinion on a current events story on my personal blog… so what? Many people agree, many disagree. Such is life. I guess we shall just have to agree to disagree. Cheers
The lady doth protest to much me thinks. I obviously stepped on a nerve or you wouldn’t have bothered to let me know about it.
Just so we’re clear, you came over here to let me know that you were ticked, but you didn’t really object to anything I wrote in a logical, cohesive manner. Probably because I was spot on.
While it’s very generous of you to grant that the Duggar kids are probably just fine, you just couldn’t help getting your digs in either… snap and all included. But you really couldn’t address my arguments and I think at this point, you’re over your head.
SNAP!
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Update – response to Toni from the RSM blog comment section.
Elena, your mental skills are both deeply lacking and deeply disturbed. (Ad hominem attack.) RSM’s husband’s expression that his family situation became difficult after a certain number of children had been born does not mean he “has no use for” them (wow, what an selfish, manipulative, objectifying way to think about other human beings — they’re only any good if you “have a use for them”), or that he wishes they’d never been born. What an unChristian thing to do, to assume something like this based on nothing but your own hateful thoughts Nonetheless, RSM has mentioned a number of times how miserable hubby was after #7 or 8. Hasn’t mentioned a word about how number 7 – 12 might have added one worthwhile second to his life – just misery. Apparently they haven’t added much to society either in her view as there was no mention of that either. That was her objectification and and manipulation – heck she doesn’t even refer to them as oh, I don’t know, brothers and sisters-in-law? You have your experiences and other people have theirs. Neither set of experiences is anything more than anecdotal. Your experiences are not worth any more than anyone else’s, nor is your opinion. Which is probably why anecdotal evidence should rarely be introduced into a discussion as “compelling evidence,” which is what RSM did. In fact it was hubby’s anecdotal experience that apparently guides her vendetta against the Duggar family. But claiming you know for a fact that RSM’s husband wishes his siblings had never been born and “has no use for them” (that has to be the most disturbing comment I’ve seen in a while and reveals a lot about your attitude towards the people in your life) crosses a line. Yea I thought it crossed the line when RSM brought it up. I hope her in-laws don’t read her blog! I just made a courtesy call so RSM will know that I did indeed see her comment and that I acknowledge and respond to it. One has to wonder Toni why that bothers you, although it certainly seems from the rest of y our post that you spent A LOT of time reading my archives! LOL!! The rest of this is totally off topic and more ad hominen attacks. But they amuse me so here goes. Does the fact that you contracepted and/or aborted your way through the first decade of your marriage have anything to do with it? We actually practiced Natural Family Planning during that time. You are apparently also unfamiliar with the Catholic concepts of repentance, forgiveness and absolution.
Is it really you who is the jealous one here? I admire Mrs. Duggar tremendously. But even if I had never heard of her before, I found the dehumanizing way that RSM attacked her to be very viscous and deserving of strong straightforward response. Maybe if you hadn’t been so selfish and you and your husband hadn’t wasted so much time using each other as — how did Tony put it? — oh, yes — “sex toys”, you’d be the one getting all the free stuff and all the media attention. Think of just how many babies you could have popped out in all that time! Maybe you could even have beat Mrs. Duggar in the numbers game! Yea you know, maybe. But I probably would not have been as kind, gracious and holy as the lovely Michelle Duggar has been to all of the morons who have attacked her in the past few weeks. God really does pick the right people to carry out His plan doesn’t He. That really must grind your gears, eh? Not at all dear, but nice try. You really don’t get it do you?
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